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Cartridges that do not fill are most likely cause by the front seals being broken. Make sure you have plenty of spare ones. Another thing to check is that the base of the cartridge should be screwed in well, because sometimes they become loose and air escapes through there.
In my opinion the hand pump is not very likely to fail. Sometimes however you have to unscrew and re-screw a cartridge back in because it didn't fit properly and will not fill.
I am well aware of the things you report from roguesci, however I advise that you do not discuss them here.
It will only aid in the future demise of brocock guns, as it already happened in England, and is starting to happen in Germany.
Hello Hans!
The cartridge used in the Valtro is the "airmunition" cartridge.
http://www.totalmission.com/index_files/Page1693.htm
Other guns aside from the Valtro use the airmunition cartridge, including the Clock 17T training pistol.
However, some time ago airmunition equipment stoped being offered to the public, now it is only for law enforcement. However, some people still own the guns, but replacement parts are virtually impossible to find.
What more information do you need? do posess one of these guns?
Congratulations, I am glad your gun works now.
If you pressed the two parts tightly together, it will probably not fail again; I have put hundreds of shots through my gun after the "repair",
Good luck!
I found a working Link for the video and pictures!
http://members.aol.com/autoairrifle/v…on_close_up.wmv
http://s41.photobucket.com/albums/e266/autoair/
That rifle is the semi-auto rifle!
I remember reading about that. It's a shame only one still remains, and that it was never sent into production.
Most probably, I would have not been able to afford one anyways...
LEP pistols would be much more interesting if they cycled. Deek is right, seems a lot of people just like them for their looks, and not their shooting ability.
A popular model that fires those 9mm air cartridges is the the Glock 17T Training pistol, available only to law enforcement:
http://www.nevesuniforms.com/productdetail.asp?groupnumber=1050
If I am not mistaken, one also can take a gun and install the airmunition system, (which includes blue slide for safety, but it can be reversed for live ammunition as well)
According to this site, the Glock 17T does around 2ft/lb (2.7 Joules)
http://www.cybershooters.org/glock.htm
There was another pistol, a Valtro Beretta that used the same if not almost identical system.
I think, with enough work, one may be able to get a micro brocock gun to do semi-auto fire. Someone who knows how to work on guns should try it.
Look carefully, the 9mm cartridge is able to fire a big plastic pellet and also cycle the action:
http://www.totalmission.com/index_files/Page1693.htm
PS: A brocock micro cartridge at 300 bars gives 5.4 Joules.
All LEP guns that use micro brocock cartridges that are converted semi-automatics do no cycle by themselves, but instead one has to pull the slide back for every shot. People say that is because the cartridge holds very little air.
Look here:
http://www.totalmission.com/index_files/Page1587.htm
These cartridges, as small as they are, are able to cycle a modified real semi-automatic pistol:
http://www.ais-sim.com/training_produ…ucts_prisim.htm
And here is the energy output of these cartridges:
http://www.totalmission.com/index_files/Page3500.htm
These systems are not for sale to civilians, but for goverment and contractors only. However, they are direct dessendants of the Valtro airmunition that once was available for everyone.
I think those 9mm air cartridges are not all that different from a Micro Brocock cartridge. So why can't we make them cycle? I would buy one inmediatly if it could.
Ok, on my SAA, everything is magnetic except the trigger guard and the backstrap. So Barrel, cylinder and the frame that holds the cylinder are Steel.
On my ME Bull Barrel, only the insert inside the barrel and the cylinder are steel, all outter parts are not attracted to the magnet.
I have the oldest of the SAA, with the "brocock" letters on the barrel, and all removeable parts.
How do I.test.what parts are made from steel and what parts are not?
Will a magnet not stick to cheap alloy metal?
Few suggestions before buying new parts:
Mike, your "drop safety" or transfer bar (as I call it) does reach the firing pin when you squeeze the trigger? Can you perform this test: With one hand cock the hammer back, and then pull the trigger while sustaining the hammer so it doesn't move forward. Squeezing the trigger should make the drop safety move up and down. Keep it in the up position and use a pen or other pointy device so press the safety bar onto the firing pin, to simulate the firing action (the bar should depress the pin in all the way down). The safety bar only reaches to the middle of the firing pin and that is normal. The indentation on the pin should be no problem unless it is very deep. You may use a tool, like pliers, to rotate the firing pin (it rotates freely, no dissassembly) half a turn so the safety bar makes contact with the "untouched" portion of the firing pin.
Either way, firing pins have a limited life, and you should easily be able to buy one from Weihrauch. 9SA.20.09
http://www.me-sportwaffen.de/instructions_de/324102.pdf
Dissambly is very easy, simple unscrew the cap that hold the firing pin, but be very careful, the spring below the firing pin is extremely small and may jump out, and get lost. When you put it back together make sure the cap is on tight.
Please let me know if this helps you
Thank you for sharing the results of your experiment!
Depends on the purpose:
If you want energy for going penetrating targets, a nice weight pellet will do. however, the more weight, the more pellet drop.
But for making holes in paper targets, maybe they would work? In theory, a lighter pellet is faster, so it has a flatter trajectory. I would be interesting what kind of accuracy they could achieve.
I couldn't know unless I tried using them myself. One thing about them is that they are half the cost of any airgun pellets!
According to an airgun calculator, 7.5 Joules of energy would fire a 0.12 gram projectile at 365m/s
Hypothetical of course.
Look at this airsoft ammo, it is 5,5mm
http://www.begadishop.com/catalog/index.…f556a48c001d7c9
If one were to use this ammo in a 5,5mm airgun, such as LEP revolvers, would the airgun act as an airsoft?
Or, because an LEP can propel a 1 gram pellet to +120m/s, would these very light balls (0.12 grams) travel much faster, hence being more dangerous? (possible skin damage?)
It would be fun if an LEP could act as an airsoft as well 
Harry can you help him with the solution I posted above?
If his safety bar isn't rising up enough to strike the firing pin, his trigger assembly (9SA.20.15) has become separated. If that is the case, it is easy to join them together.
Harry may help translate:
I do not quite understand the problem you are having (internet translator is not good enough).
The problem I had was that the "transfer bar" safety was not rising up to make contact with the firing pin. The trigger is actually 2 parts stamed together, one part is the one you can see from the outside, which releases the hammer, the other part lifts the safety bar by pushing it from below as the trigger rotates.
To see if your trigger is fine, cock the hammer and while you hold it with your thumb, squeeze the trigger. The safety bar should come up about midway to the firing pin, it is built that way. Mine too has a little mark in the middle of the firing pin due to the transfer bar not being tall enough to cover it, but that is a nescecity: if the safety bar was tall enough to cover the firing pin, it would not act as "safety" because it would always be in contact with the firing pin, as it's vertical travel is too small and it wouldn't be able to "duck" under the pin.
I hope this helps you some.
Does that mean WBK for all LEP owners?
And also that it will be virtually impossible to export an LEP gun from germany.... good thing I got my bull barrel months ago...
what a shame.
"Chrony F-1"
