Beiträge von Stark

    Hello,
    it is quite dangerous to do warning shot with gas pistol or show it. A lot of criminals are not afraid of guns in Lithuania, because they think that all of them are gas pistols/revolvers. About a year ago, ex police officer was attacked by three drunk men - they began to beat him. Ex cop showed them Baikal pistol and said "I will shoot, men" - but they tried to take away the gun. In result, the ex cop shot to death one of them and injured other two in self-defence.
    In our law it is written: you have to warn the person before using the gun, but this does not mean, that you have to do warning shot. Maybe your law is different
    If you need to use gas pistol/revolver, just take it out and shoot in about 1-1,5 seconds. After that quickly run away in the direction opposite you shot.
    The distance in which you can use gas pistol, is very small - only 1,5 - 2 m. and you can be easily injured with knife, stick or fists.

    In other words, castration of the gun :)

    The letters are KD - 94. Thank you for information.
    I wonder why 14 year old revolvers were kept so long. I have read about HW 37 sold in Latvia with same PTB too.

    I wanted to ask another question: what is the function of the part I found in the revolver box - it can be screwed on the barrel like the part used to shoot 15 mm flares, but its diameter is smaller.

    http://i38.tinypic.com/2ekrrkl.jpg - photo of the part

    I bought a HW 37 gas revolver (I havent seen them in Lithuania earlier).
    The revolver looks new and not used, but its PTB is 547 - can somebody say in which year it was made?

    To Schnurbel:

    APS rubber bullet version is semi auto.

    To Gabor VASS

    9 mm Knall + separate rubber bullet combination is quite popular , and is cheaper than original ammunition, BUT this combination also means up to 4 years in jail according to our Penal Code.

    I read a lot in Russian gun forum guns.ru - rubber bullet / traumatic guns made by Umarex such as P99T or P22T are not very popular, since they break very often. Traumatic weapons are so popular in Russia, that gun shops dont trade gas guns anymore (only traumatic as Makarych, OCA, T10 and so on)

    Their weak point is the barrel with baricade which deforms very quickly.
    The stopping power is also not very good and bullets usually dont penetrate thick clothes.

    In Lithuania there is only one example - Me 38 Compact, shooting very weak 380 Me Gum bullets - we can own it without licence. A lot of people who bought these revolvers, sold it very quickly, because they were disappointed


    There is a photo of a test with these weak legal bullets - few shots at beer can from 2-2,5 metres distance.

    http://i38.tinypic.com/2z6t2jb.jpg

    Categories of traumatic weapons
    1) guns without barrel -OCA, Strazhnik (18 mm caliber)
    2) guns with falsch barrel - the barrel is only an imitation and its diameter is bigger than bullets - Lyder (made from Tokarev).
    3)guns that are classified as gas guns but shoot with rubber bullets - Makarych Izh 79 9T, APS ( made from Stetchkin), WASP, RG, naganych (made from real nagant in 9 PA)

    The power of cartridges in Russia is increasing - first cartridges were about 18-30 J, after few years 50-55 J, now about 70 J.
    Their stopping power is not very good.

    Big dog is very good for home defence, but cute Bull terrier like mine is also not bad :)