Umarex Walther PP/PPK

Dear forum members,

I have some questions concering the Umarex manufactured Walther PP/PPK models and the possibility of interchangable parts.

I have yesterday won an auction on Egun on a Walther PP made by Umarex with PTB 620. I´m thinking of ordering a new Walther PP despite the ugly barrel because the new wonderful bruneriung the have.

If my facts are correct the PTB 620 has the barrel that doesn´t look like a water pipe, but having the "normal" looking barrel.

Non of the Umarex made PP/PPK´s have slide catches?
Does the PP with PTB 620 have a steel hammer or maybe steel inlet?
Walther PP with the new PTB 765 (?) have only zink hammer?

I have come to understand that the PPK with PTB 502 have a steel hammer and as i understand having some problems with a main spring that tends to be abit weak?

But concerning the two PTB´s of the PP models, how many parts are interchangable between them? I guess the magazines of the two can work in both PTB?
What i was also thinking is that since Umarex are know to be "cost effective" with their guns, is the hammer interchangable with both PP PTB´s? Then if the 620 PTB have a steel hammer could it be fit to the newer PP´s that are made today?

I´m having a hard time seeing that the hammer from the PPK 502 can fit the PP because of size issues....?

The PP (especially) is one of my favorite models and i must confess..that i am VERY JELOUS of Germi having a real PP converted to blank gun!! !!!"&/)#"&**!!! Well...at least i have the FEG PA-63 gun thou...

And it shall be damned that they never show up anytime at Egun those real PP´s SSW!

//// Daniel

It´s not possible to chance the Hammer from a Umarex PP and PPK, because they have different Hammers.LooK:

left Side the PPK with a Steel-Hammer and right Side the PP with a used Zinc-Hammer.

Ah, vielen dank!

I´m interested in a PPK but in the description of the pistol its says "Nur beim Single Action lässt der Hahn sich nicht richtig abschlagen"

What can the problem be? Maybe something easy to fix?

Daniel,
it´s better, you forget this one, because if if the owner write something about problems by using, than is the gun near the borderline of using and very near to a crash.
It´s better, you looking for a not using PPK or better, you looking for a RG 800, the best PPK-clon.

Hello Vogelspinne,

Thanx for the reply, they are hard to find therefore i was interested, but ok. I will search for a not used Walther PPK (i want that model with Walther logo).

I already have a black Röhm RG800 incoming from germany by post at this current writing. (see pictures)

Your RG 800 with the wooden Grips ist really beautiful! I´ve made it as you, I buy a PPK from Umarex after I have had some RG 800 und some from their younger sister RG 100.

That´s some nice collection! i have heard that according to the technical view the RG800 functions like the real PPK...???
The i must say i also like the 8mmK round, it fits the PPK models good.

What´s the different by the RG800 and RG100?

Here are some more pictures:

Hello Daniel,

There were them Walther PPK with Original Maketings, in Black and once again with a chromium-plated sledge in the caliber 8 mms (PTB 502), indeed, there was like Germi late says already then Walther (PTB 585) in Black and in nickel, indeed, unfortunately, there was not only for 8 mms an extended 10 shots magazine, for which Walther in 315.

Here is my Chrome one

MFG
Cannyblue

Zitat

Original von germi
Technically the models RG 800/100 are the best PPK-clones with all technical advantages except the indicator, it's missing.

Yes, i have read that the real ones have that indicator. That future in not available on my FEG-PA63.

Cannyblue,
That´s a real beautiful PPK, it looks new. I´m keeping my eyes open at Egun but them Walther´s dont pop up too often.

/// Daniel

Zitat

Original von Trommelmann
@Daniel_79

Did you buy the RG 800 with the nice woodgrip at eGun a short time ago?

I bought the Rg800 the 23/3 . Haven´t got it yet from shipping. DHL seems to have forgot my package at some terminal or something.
Its the second time i experience this!