21st century polymer, 2-shot version from Tula (A+A Hunter's Signal):
(Centerfire, 209 shotgun primers)
21st century polymer, 2-shot version from Tula (A+A Hunter's Signal):
(Centerfire, 209 shotgun primers)
I think the 925 pictured above is an accidentally shipped traumatic. This happened before...Turkish quality control:-)
Our Zoraki's muzzle looks like this:
914:
Or the 917:
Zorakis ohne PTB, die nur in Oesterreich, Tschechien, Polen und Russland oder anderen Laendern ohne PTB Freigabe sind, haben NUR eine Madenschraube, keine direkte Laufsperre wie bei unseren PTB Waffen.
It is FALSE.
In Austria, Czech Republic, Slovakia, Hungary etc: the Zoraki _gaspistols_ have the hard steel barricade and all other stuff in the barrel, just not so close to the muzzle as in the PTB-version.
Russia: that are not gaspistols, but rubber bullet shooter _traumatic pistols_ with less barricade in the barrel of course. But they need LICENCE to own them (shall-issue).
trigger guard is zinc.
The slide is more interesting. It was on a French-export grenaille (kleinschrottwaffe) gun. But on this pistol the frame and barrel is normal 8 mm knall. No PTB.
A German and a Russian "pocket rocket":
(Reck PK800 8 mm K, A+A Pioner 18x51 mm BAM)
Reach? Legal in Krautland?
"Reach? Legal in Krautland?"
Natürlich NEIN.
(I am in Hungary.)
As far as I know it is also legal in Austria, Slovakia, Czech Republic, France, Italy...so BKA should F..ck Off.
And the big brother, JPX4 Compact + a PV-CS mixture spray:
Piexon JPX in the spring sunshine:-)
The new, EP-accepted EU directive modification do not effect the classical gas-alarm guns, especially not the PTB ones.
The converted ones (salut) can be affected however.
I assume it will be just another replica.
Best regards from naive
Trumpeter
Walther P22 9 mm PAK gaspistol is NOT a replica of the P22 .22 LR, that is the same gun in different caliber. Made mostly form the same materials at the same factory. Hopefully the new P22QD will something like that, but with safe to carry"
Many US gun shops already lists a phantom pistol Walther P22QD, Double Action Only, .22 LR, 10+1, without product photo, but with cca. 300 USD retail price.
Yes, it is what we need. Although I do not really need a 10-round double stack magazine, a single stack 6-7 rounder would be perfect, if the gun is flat and slim.
Maybe, hopefully the promised (in US gun press) Walther P22QD could fill this role.
Noch mal kurz zu eigentlichen Thema.
In (meinem) Antragsvordruck auf Erteilung eines kleinen Waffenscheins steht unter Hinweise auch:
"Für die Mitnahme der Waffen ins europäische Ausland (z.B. Österreich) benötigen Sie den Europäischen Feuerwaffenpass."
In Hungary (and in many other countries) gas-alarm guns are legally NOT firearms.
And it is free to own, and free to come here with it. Only the carry in public is requires licence. (And manufacture, repair and commercial sale of course.)
Glaube mir..... die ungarische Polizei schießt erst und frägt dann! Probier es lieber erst garnicht aus!
LOL LOL LOL
Hungarian Police is a weak, incompetent, totally corrupt piece of shit. Except some special units (TEK) they have totally obsolete pistols, ammo and holsters, and their shooting training is something like from the 1930s.
Alles anzeigen@Gabor Vass:
May I ask you one more thing, Gabor?
Today I was told, that if I would like to wear a blank gun as a tourist in Hungary, I should inform hungarian customs about this at entering Hungary and would get a temporarly permit.
I think, the informer was kidding arround...
Am I correct?
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Hungary is a member of the EU and Schengen, there are no borders and no customs anymore on the internal borders. So this "advice" is especially stupid.
And to the general discussion: it is NOT paranoia to carry a non-lethal selfdefence device as a tourist.
(Tourists with expensive cameras, big backpacks, without knowning the local language are excellent targets of simple criminals.)
Hungary is generally a peaceful and safe country, BUT there are quarters of Budapest which are totally dangerous even in broad daylight, and we have almost entire counties (north-east) where there is absolutely no law and order.
I travel everywhere with defensive tools if I can. In Slovakia, Czech Republic, Austria: I simply carry a gaspistol and a pepperspray. To Germany: fixed blade knife, pepperspray Piexon JPX/Guardian Angel. Yes, the Hauptbahnhof in Nurnberg looks really intimidating on Saturday nights.
Alles anzeigenOi...
Erschtmol danke für alle 15 Antworten
Warum ich erst nach 40 Jahren erstmals Urlaub mache? Weil es sich leider so ergeben hat... Shit happens...
(...das Leben ist halt kein Ponyhof...)Warum ich eine SSW führe und auch in den Urlaub mitnehme? Weil sich das Führen dieser Waffe(n) bewährt und mich schon einige Male geschützt hat (...auch, wenn das manche nicht glauben wollen... es ist einfach eben so!)
@Gabor Vass:
Thank you for your answer. Is it possible for me to apply for hungarian KWS? This because I guess, I will stay in Hungary often in future, because my partner stood there in the past and likes vacation there(Nachtrag für alle: bitte keine Grundsatzdiskussion über Führen von SSW. Danke!)
you can get Hungarian KWS if you have permanent address here.
Only requirements: no criminal record, 18+ years old.
But you need KWS for each and every gaspistol you want to carry.
"Einfach" würde ich auch das nicht tun. Was hier an Tierabwehr legal ist, ist es anderenorts noch lange nicht - oder - wie man an Gabors Antwort sieht - nicht genau so.
In Hungary you get the same penalty (Geldstrafe) for pepperspray as carrying a gaspistol without carry licence.
(Guardian Angel is OK. But average police do not know what is that:-))
Hallo Forum,
nach 40 Jahren macht meiner einer nun das erste Mal Urlaub.
Es geht mit dem Auto über Österreich nach Ungarn.
Frage: Darf ich als deutscher Urlauber in Österreich und Ungarn eine PTB-SSW führen?
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In Österreich NO PROBLEM, even the PTB is not required.
In Hungary the PTB is also irrelevant, but you need Hungarian KWS for carry a gaspistol.
Small CS, CR sprays are legal to carry under 20 grams of payload.
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