Posts by Gabor VASS

    Warum soll ich mit ner Knarre rumlaufen,die im Endeffekt nur eine optische Abschreckung bietet.

    "Echte Messer" werden auch schnell zum Problem.

    Ich habe einen kleinen Dagger aus Ipe-Holz. Waffenrechtlich völlig unbedenklich aber als Stichwaffe nicht zu unterschätzen.

    I really hate this.

    When there is always one or two guys feel they have to agitate against the carry of guns in a topic ABOUT carry of guns.


    Especially when at the same time recommend to carry a KNIFE for selfdefence. OMG.

    No problem.

    Safe transport is allowed for all KKVE devices. Means it should be packed in a bag or box, not ready to use (in case of a crossbow for example: unloaded, uncocked).

    Airguns and other free-to-own guns are also allowed to transport unloaded , safely packed.

    Using these on private property: airguns, paintball markers, bows, crossbows are allowed, IF it is impossible to shoot out from your property (safe backstop), and basically it is fenced, so no one can just walk into the line of fire.

    Gas-alarms guns are loud, and it can frighten the neighbours, so it is better to use them on a shooting range, black powder muzzleloaders are mandatory to use only on licenced shooting range (or hunting field with special hunting permit).

    You can own a lot of guns, BUT I think you are interested on those which do not require licence:


    1. Airguns up to 7,5 J

    2. Paintball markers with MINIMUM 12 mm caliber up to 15 J

    3. Gas- and alarm guns

    (From 2023.01.01. the NON-EU-compliant NEW gas-alarm guns will be Category C-1, subject to registration)

    4. antique weapons (and their replicas)

    a, muzzleloaders

    b, any gun which is do not capable of firing modern united rimfire, centerfire or electronic-ignited ammuniton

    (such as "percussion-hinterlader" or "Lefaucheux-revolvers".)

    5. Deactivated guns

    (From 2021.01.01. the EU-compliant NEW deactivated guns are Category C-2, subject to registration)


    The bows, crossbows, swords, bayonets, knifes, tear gas sprays, batons etc are NOT under the Gun Law, but under the KKVE Government Order (KKVE: Devices Especially Dangerous to Public Safety), generally FREE TO OWN, however their carry, transport, use, sale is a deifferent thing.


    Hätte noch Fragen an Hr. Vass bezüglich Waffenrecht Ungarn, falls der thread noch offen ist.

    Mit den Original-Paragraphen - trotz Übersetzung - komm ich nicht klar

    Mit weihnachtlichen Grüßen

    Hello, what are your questions?

    I'll answer them if I can.

    Merry Xmas!

    Die Frage ist: Welcher Hersteller hat diese Zulassung nach dieser Richtlinie, und wie erkennt man das?

    A few practical tip about EU-conform gas-alarm guns.

    As more and more EU member state implement the 69/2019 EU Richtlinie, the Turkish, Czech and Italian manufacturers manufacture their guns such way.

    - If you import the non-PTB but EU-conform gas-alarm guns from Czech Republic, there will be a C-1 category designation near the Czech CIP-N proofmark.

    - The Zoraki now sells their guns without the PTB sign, BUT with the "PTB" letter on the box's white vignette. (Identical with the ones on the German market)

    - The Kuzey and Ekol models which are newly manufactured have enormously long letter row before the numbers in their serial number.

    Non-EU-conform looked like this: EVI3-1700763, NOW, the EU-conform serial number: EVZXIZBRDMFSO2YZ-2100654

    - Bruni: the "2021 Letter NUMBER " format serial numbered guns are generally EU-conform

    I hope it helps a little.

    Beautiful Gabor VASS ,

    I look forward that our Government finally change the Law for EU Rules and free the Hungary Beauties for the German Market. 😊

    The German gun law is already modified. If a gas-alarm gun is conform with the EU 69/2019, that is legal in Germany.

    However, in Hungary the conformity with the EU-directive is only mandatory from 2023.01.01., so AFTER that it have to be sold with modified barrel, and THAN you can buy them.…-eu-schreckschusspistole/…h/thema-der-woche-teil-2/

    Little bit ugly, but it is the SMALLEST and LIGHTEST 6-shooter 9 mm Gasrevolver, ever.

    9 mm PAK, 250 gramm(!), aluminium frame and cylinder, steel trigger&hammer, DAO.

    (Keserű Bonnie, NON-PTB)

    thanks, that's interesting to know. but only from 2023? that's still a lot of time

    The Hungarian manufacturers/importers and shops need time for the transition. We claimed 3-5 years, but we left with only two.

    From 2023 you can sell/buy free new gas-alarm guns only with this proofmark, and the non-compliant new ones will be subject to registration (Category C1).