9 mm PAK FULL AUTO

OK, I know it is not allowed in Germany, and it is definiately NOT PTB gun, but it is legal "freie waffe" in Hungary since september 2004.

The thing is a prototype of a 9 mm PAK Ingram-style "maschinenpistole" with 20 rd magazine.

Full auto, simple blowback, entirely made of steel, otherwise it should melt down:-))

Shooting with the thing is pure fun.

The retail price will be about 300 euros here.

Just for curiosity....

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Und dann abwechselnd CS und Pepper laden, ich glaube das is eine SSW die sich zur Verteidigung eignet. "

Mmmmm.
The gas-cloud after a small burst was enormous:-))))))))

Good device to dissipate an entire galery of football-hooligans:-))

OK, if it will be in production once, I'll get one to be the LOUDEST MAN in the street on New Year's Eve.

(It will eat a full box of platzpatrons within 5 seconds...)

Advertisement of the product.

"Gabor have you shot this gun?"

Yes, I've shot an 50 rd box of platzpatrons. It did not take much time.

The guns was totally reliable, which is interesting, as these patrons are loaded very hecticly.

"wie sieht es da mit dem Gesetzt in Ungarn aus? Sind alle Vollautomaten erlaubt oder gibt es da irgendwelche Einschränkungen.

Gabor are there any non-allowed full autos? "

We have a new law since this September.

Which is wroted very junkly...

So all full auto REAL firearms are totally banned here.

But any device which works with munition OTHER than modern centerfire, rimfire, or electronic ignited UNITED cartridge (MUST contain bullet, powder and igniton) is classified as NON-FIREARM.

Therefore not subject of the full auto ban.

The gas-alarms guns ammo DO NOT contain bullet, so these are NOT firearms.

(Iteresting, that under the OLD law we needed normal firearm licencse for gas-alarm guns, too).

Things are changing.

"But the definition is quite interesting But you said UNITED cardrige - so if I place my bullet apart from the cardridge e.g. blank cardridge and some steel bb this would STILL be no gun in terms of law? If so, very strange law you have there "

Yep.
We have now a 10-shooter revolver, which is legally not firearm.

It works with 6 mm platzpatrons, and 5,5 mm H&N lead rundkugeln. The 6 mm platz must be loaded from the back of the cylinder, and the bullets from the front, like a cap'n'ball percussion revolver.

The gun is capable of E0=15-20 joules. It penetrates 2 cm thick pinewood from 5 meters.

Great plinker.